The Ayanamsa Controversy !

Now let us go to the roots of this Ayanamsa Controversy. This was started by
"arrogance of the Vedic astrologers in US and Europe".

"The Indian Gurus and their Western followers imported Hindu Sidereal Zodiac
to the mighty West".

Who are the Indian Gurus ?

Swami Vivekananda ?
Paramahamsa Yogananda?
Swami Ramathirtha ?
Mahesh Yogi ?
Dr Deepak Chopra?

And their Western followers ?

Dr Robert Keith Wallace of MIU ( Maharshi International University, US )?
Noble Laureate Dr Brian Josephson?
Nobel Laureat Melvin Calvin?
Nobel Laureate Prigogine ?
Dr Paul Brunton ?
Dr David Frawley ?

Why call the Sidereal Zodiac " Hindu ". Is there a Christian Tropical Zodiac?

Christian Theology is against Astrology ( "Thou shalt not practise
Divination" - Deuteronomy ). Popes condemn Astrology as Magic and
Superstition, as Paganism and Witchcrat.  How can Popes follow the Vedic
Calender ?

Jesus said " Go and preach to all the nations of the world, baptising them
in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost, teaching them what I
have taught thee and lo ! thou shalt be with me till the end of the Age".
True. But he was the Redeemer of the Piscean Age, the Age of Pisces. But the
Piscean Age is gone and he is no longer the Redeemer. This is the New Age,
the Age of Aquarius, the Age of Science, of Technology, of the Net !

All dogmas belong to Theology, said Russell. The dogmas of Theology, like
the Resurrection, the Immaculate Conception or the Son of God stuff will not
work in a scientific world !

"Through the window of Science, we see the Dawn of the Age of Enlightenment
and the ignorant have no place in the Age of Enlightenment" averred Mahesh
Yogi.

This is Hair's famous song " The New Age of Aquarius"

When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars!

This is the dawning of the age of Aquarius
The age of Aquarius
Aquarius!
Aquarius!

The Land of Light

Bha means Light and Rathi means attachment and Bharata is the land where people are attached to Light, where the call of the Infinite is listened to with keenness! This is the land where the Vedas and the Upanishads first saw the Light, where Bhagavan Sankara established monasteries for the propagation of the Eternal Law, the Sanatana Dharma.

Even after the onslaughts of the Moghal Empire and the British Empire, we have not changed our faith. The same Faith  which our Lord taught,  the Yogis cognised,  the Rishies disseminated and our poets confirmed.

Now a "Pratyaksha Professor" ( A K Kaul )  is coming out with a theory which, as one scholar pointed out, can shake the foundations of our knowledge and belief !

This is the land graced by high intellectuals like Aurobindo and Ramana Maharshi, Dr Radhakrishnan, Vivekananda and Tagore. Yet we are challenged by a "Pratyaksha Professor" of low learning and low intellect !

Astrology indicators !

All have agreed that Jupiter is the Veda Karaka. There was some opposition to highlighting  Sun in Gemini  as an astro indicator.

Angular Jupiter is a visible factor. Mercury rules Ganitha and both together can make one an astrologer. I am not going to talk about the Sun in Gemini !

Also the Moon in Cancer

 

He who is born when Moon tenants Cancer

Will be subservient to women

Knowledgeable in Astrology

Owning houses galore

His wealth cyclical

Subject to vicissitudes

Short with conquering eloquence

Lover of relatives good

Interested in watery sports

Such is Astrology's decree !

Source : http://www.eastrovedica.com/html/vedic_astrologylesson108.asp

The Limbs of Wisdom Eternal, the Veda Purusha

The Sanskrit poets defined the Absolute Self as Space Eternal, the Vedapurusha and said that the six Veda Anga Saastras, the six auxiliary sciences, form His body !

Chandau Pada, Shabda Saasatram cha vaktram

Kalpam Vanee Jyothisham Chakshushee cha

Shiksha Ghraanam Shrotha muktham Niruktham
Vedasyanga Nyeva Mahur Muneendra !

In our last post, we forgot to define Shiksha or phonetics. Shiksha Shikshayathhi Vyaktam Vedocharana Lakshanam, Shiksha teaches correct pronunciation.

The term Hindu Zodiac was not coined by me, but used by the great Dr B V Raman.

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The sidereal basis of the Hindu Zodiac brings to relative significance the importance the Great Rishies have assigned to Suns apart from ours,  while being aware of the fact that our immediate overlord is our magnificent Sun. They were far more aware than the modern astronomers of the shfiting character of the Vernal Equinoctial Point "

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The 'Pratyaksha Professor"( AK Kaul )   is parroting some Western scholars ( like Thibeau and Whitney ? )  and wants to tropicalise our Zodiac.

Evangelists speak like this " Your theories are wrong. Our theories are correct. God sent His son to redeem this world and if you dont convert, no Heaven" !

Stop  evangelisation of the Hindu Zodiac !

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About Thesis and Anti Thesis, Siderealism and Tropicalism

Ours is a broad minded and tolerant culture.

We should respect the Rishies of the West, Kant, Hegel, Fichte, Emerson,Thoreau, Whitman and their mathematicians and astrologers, Kepler, Laplace, Sir Simon Newcomb, Brown, Leverier etc and their astrolgers, William Lilly, Dane Rudhyar et al.

Now I have developed a healthy respect for Western Psychological Astrology, which is based on the Depth Pychology of Freud and Jung, the Transpersonal Psychology of Abraham Maslow and the Humanistic Psychology of Carl Rogers. It is heartening to see parallels to these systems, like Transpersonal Astrology, Humanistic Astrology and Archetypal Astrology.

Varaha Mihira said it correctly

Melaccha hi yavanastheshu
Samyak Saastram idam sthitham
Rishivatyepi Poojyanthe
Kim punar daivavid Dvija !

Respect the Western scholars as Rishies !

The great Puliyoor Purushotaman Namboothir echoed the same when he said " Paschathya Nirmitan Granthan Na Swee Kurvanthi Panditha " !

Why cant the Indian scholars accepts authentic Western books ?

I had an experience, when I wrote a Malayalam article quoting Kant, the German philosopher, one man asked me " Why do you quote Kant? ". I said the Germans rate him as the world's greatest. There are some people in the Indian civlization who are hardliners. Also in the West. Also in the Islamic. We should not be like them. We should not slip into fundamentalism !

As the positron and the electron peacefully coexist in the atom, let both Thesis and Anti Thesis, Tropicalism and Siderealism, peacefully coexist in Astrology !

If we had behaved arrogantly, we seek pardon from those whom we had offended !

Anu Ranjanam Jagath Mangalm ! Peace is better than being right !

Universal Mind, Mahath Brahma !

Well, the Universal Mind is known as Mahat Brahma .

 

Says the Lord

This Universe, the Womb is where I plant

Seeds of all lives
From thence, O Prince of India

Comes birth to all beings

Whoso, Kunti's son, mothers each mortal form
Universal Mind conceives

And I am He that fathers, sending seed !  

 

( The Song Celestial - Sir Edwin Arnold's translation of the Geetha ).

 

 

Mama Yonir Mahat Brahma

Thasmi Garbham Thadamyaham
Sambhava Sarva Bhoothanam
Thatho Bhavathi Bharatha !

Sarva Yonishu Kounteya

Moortaya Sambhavanthi Yaah

Tasam Brahma Mahat Yonee

Aham Beeja prada Pitha !

 

 

This is in line with what Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi taught, that the Absolute Brahman becomes the Cosmic Mind ( Mahat Brahma ) to spread the world and that all this is mirrored in the Universal Mind, Mayayam Bimbithasthvam !

 

Tropicalists vs Siderealists !

This fight between the Tropicalists and the Siderealists have been going on for years. There are Siderealists in the Western ( Fagan,Cheiro who developed their own Ayanamsas ) and there are tropicalists in the Eastern !

About ten years ago, in a Western list, I quoted the Vedic Astrologer, Jeff Armstrong and was labelled as " arrogant". Jeff Armstrong's article was " You are not the Sign that you think you are, the Greek blunder". I said the Greeks have blundered and Moser Sirgar II, the Moderator got hot with me and said "Kumar, do you know how arrogant you are?". Now I am far more mature and avoid Tropical vs Sidereal fights !

I did not blame the Western scholar. How will you react when somebody says  the Indian Astronomers, Brahmagupta, Bhaskara, Aryabhata, Madhava, Parameswar, Jyeshtadeva, Neelakanta etc were wrong ? Similarly he reacted. He was influenced by Hipparchus, Ptolemy, William Lilly, Kepler, Laplace etc and how else can he react to the statement  that his forefathers have blundered ?

According to the Tropicalists, the Siderealists are arrogant. And according to the Siderealists, the Tropicalists are arrogant ! (Thibeau and Whitney  said the ancient Indians did not know Astronomy or Maths ).

There is no need for such fights. Astrology can never be proved as a physical science.

There are 13 Ayanamsas and Hari's is the 13th. Cheiro's Ayanamsa takes 72 years per degree precession. Cyril Fagan established Western Sidereal Astrology.

Since Astrology is a mystical science, let us be tolerant. Paddi ji pointed out yesterday that in some cases, Hari's Ayanamsa worked. Fine. If Lahiri's works, fine. Or Raman's Or Cheiro. Or even  the Zero Ayanamsa of the Tropicalists. Astrology should work and we should come out with good results !

We will be happy when that happens !